Memory chip question

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Subject: Memory chip question
Posted by:  RF (…@NoDen.con)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009

My thanks to you all for your comments

Thanks Philo for your comments on the memory chips.

----- Original Message -----
From: "kony" <>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Memory chip question

> On Sat, 9 May 2009 21:19:04 -0700, "RF" <…@NoDen.con>
> wrote:
> >I have an old (1990's  :-)  ) computer that I use for a backup and it's
> >remarkably reliable. A far newer computer went belly up because the
> >bearing of the CPU cooling fan ran very slowly and hot and gave off a hot
> >plastic smell.
> In any fan with a sleeve bearing you should periodically
> lube it, not waiting for signs of failure before doing so.
> It is unfortunate this needs to be done sometimes, but
> that's just the way it is unless you preemptively replace
> the fan with one of better quality.

Hi Kony:

I missed a sentence in the above effort. The Spire box indicates: "No risk
of damage to other components,"  "Reduces processor temperature," "Extends
processor life."
There was NO INFO whatever about a sleeve bearing or lubrication and the fan
is guaranteed for 5 years!!!!. What was I supposed to think?

After the fan cooled down I lubed it and it ran as it did previously but
that doesn't fix the rest of the box. Some damage was done and I am still
trying to find out where it is. Any suggestions for a diagnostic test?

> >I'll go into this later when I take it up with the supplier.
> >Right now I am getting a "..... dxapi.sys could not locate the entry
> >point...."  Will be back soon on this one. Thanks for reading it :-)
> Software problem, reinstall the software that file is a part
> of.  Might be application, might be whole OS.

The HD is currently in my old Intel box and I just completed the Win2K SP4
update. Now I have a question about returning this drive to the much newer
box that
gave the dxapi.sys error message shown above. Is it likely to accept it?  To
put the question in another way, if I install an OS on an HD, will another
box accept that HD or what changes need to be made to the software? -
boot.ini is easy. Are there any other changes to be made to a Win2K drive to
get it accepted in this newer box. I have a vague recollection that a drive
is initially formatted (anywhere) and then installed in the computer for
loading the OS. I'll have a try today.

> >Meantime, I have a box with an old Intel board and only 128 MB memory.
> >is actually the max but it's 3 times better than what I have now and I'd
> >like to reach that. The two existing chips are
> >1    Syncmax NEC, 8M8 R000201 and PC100.
> >2    Kingston Value Ram KVR PC100/64 CE.
> >
> >I also have another PC100 chip but it's quite different - SD Ram 8Mx64
> >MB). The PC100s match but the SD Ram seems quite different. I would guess
> >that 128 MB (capacity of each slot) of that chip might be usable but
> >the SD Ram be incompatible. If not, I guess I'll have to visit the local
> >dump and look for a few chips that might work :-)
> You didn't give enough info for us to know exactly what they
> are.  Briefly, if it fits in the memory slot it is safe to
> put in in that slot and see if the system recognizes the
> memory, if it shows the capacity it should (or with high
> density memory, sometimes an older system will only show 1/2
> the capacity but you could accept that and use the memory
> for that gain instead of spending more money on something so
> old), and if it runs stable.
> Towards the latter concern, after installing any new memory
> or changing memory configuration, run memtest86+ for several
> hours before booting to the OS so as to minimize chances of
> corrupting files.
> Beyond that, generally speaking an old Intel board with a
> 386MB memory limit is a board that can only use low density
> memory (at full capacity) and runs at 66MHz memory bus
> speed, so any PC100 memory will work to some extent so long
> as it tests stable.
> However, if your present modern system is acting up and the
> backup is that old, it could make more sense to just save
> the time and trouble and upgrade to something more modern.
> If saving money is the goal then keep an eye out for deals,
> you can have something fairly affordable if you buy when
> parts are on sale or rebated.  For example, a PSU for $20
> after rebate, a $50 motherboard, $40 CPU, 2GB of memory for
> $15 after rebate.  It would be over a dozen times faster for
> under $150... and no matter how much you'd like, the old
> system will eventually die of old age, nothing lasts
> forever.

Thanks for your great effort here and I understand your view on this. This
old box has been the most reliable by far that I have ever had. I could even
forget about the memory chips because they are much less important. I know
the issue of cost and my time but my major problem now is the newer box and
I guess I put too much emphasis on this old one.

Now I'll get back to the newer box and the issues of finding the problems
and restoring the hard drive. Will report on my effort soon.

Thanks again.